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  How do you handle ... being shunned?

  by Awakened at Gilead in

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  2. experiences

  my da announcement was last tuesday, so i have been on the official jw shun list for about a week now.... i am curious how you handle shunning.my situation:.

  i have spoken with my family (my parents and 1 brother) and discussed whether they will shun me.

  i explained that biblically they should not shun me since i am not an antichrist, and i have not rejected the teaching that jesus cam in the flesh.

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  Great thread, thanks, A@G.

  The most hurtful shunning is from those in my family I still care about. I won't pretend it's not painful.

  The way I handle it, as others have mentioned, is by turning it around and freely talking about it -- after all, I've done nothing to be ashamed of.

  Most people have tended to think of JWs as harmless eccentics, but are shocked and find it almost unbelievable that they can be so cruel and heartless. When they then hear about child abuse, blood, etc, they begin to understand why JWs are such a dangerous cult. I strongly believe it's the most powerful anti-witness we can give.

  Ironically, of all my old JW 'friends,' those in Brooklyn are among the ones who still keep in touch most regularly ...
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  Furuli. The prominent elder in Norway not too popular among top dogs

  by Samuel Thorsen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a trustworthy source has given me the opportunity to share some information about rolf furuli.

  a well known apologist og and greatly respected elder in norway and a schoolar at the university of oslo.

  he does not compleatly agree with the fds in all cases i guess, and lately he has spoken up in his local congo about 3 subjects.. # 1. education.

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  toreador,

  It also says they are not inspired somewhere too. They like to have it both ways, because i really dont understand the difference.

  You're absolutely right.

  On the one hand they say they're not "inspired." On the other hand they say they are "spirit-directed."

  What's the difference? Zilch, nada, nothing at all.

  Why do they do it? It's yet another way to deliberately confuse the 'rank and file' - they (a) assert they have divine authority while (b) maintaining deniability for their numerous false prophecies.

  As you correctly state: "they like to have it both ways"!
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  Furuli. The prominent elder in Norway not too popular among top dogs

  by Samuel Thorsen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a trustworthy source has given me the opportunity to share some information about rolf furuli.

  a well known apologist og and greatly respected elder in norway and a schoolar at the university of oslo.

  he does not compleatly agree with the fds in all cases i guess, and lately he has spoken up in his local congo about 3 subjects.. # 1. education.

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  Samuel Thorsen,

  Thank you for your interesting post.

  # 2. Governing Body. Furuli says: GB is not spirit directed.(GB dont claim to be, but a lot of JW belive they are and enligthening the dubs are controversial.)

  Actually, the GB does claim to be spirit-directed:

  *** w06 4/1 p. 24 par. 14 ‘Go and Make Disciples, Baptizing Them’ ***
  The second question also reminds the candidate of his responsibility to work with Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization.

  *** w06 4/1 p. 22 ‘Go and Make Disciples, Baptizing Them’ ***
  Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?

  *** w98 10/15 p. 14 par. 4 Jerusalem—Is It ‘Above Your Chief Cause for Rejoicing’? ***
  What an encouragement such individuals are for all today who view Jehovah, his worship, and his spirit-directed organization in the same way!

  *** w97 1/15 p. 22 par. 21 What Does God Require of Us? ***
  We must serve Jehovah with his spirit-directed organization.

  etc.
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  1941 Jw defended booklet pdf

  by bereanbiblestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a link for the booklet jehovah's witnesses defended published in 1941.. it has a text file appended to it, to make it searchable and i book marked the scan to the bold headings and the text to confirm to the index.. to download:.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/lev86e.

  interesting for example:.

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  Many thanks!
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  Rutherford v. The United States--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rutherford v. the united states--pdf!

  b=bookmarked s=searchable r=reduced from 325-mb to 156-mb rutherford v. the united states: read the exciting case of joseph f. rutherford, the leader of jehovah's witnesses who was found guilty in 1918 of "conspiracy to violate the espionage law" and sentenced to 20 years in the federal penitentiary in atlanta, ga. all the dramatic court testimony is presented in this pdf which combines two large volumes into one file.

  here is one of the most controversial trials in the history of american religion, and there are extras included with this file!

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  Atlantis,

  See if this link will work for you garybuss!
  

  http://tjliberte.free.fr/Library/Watchtower_Publications/Watchtowers/

  I get a '404' when I try this link.

  Is there a fault, or has it been taken down?

  Thanks for your help.

  PS. The JFR transcript is superb. You're my hero!
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  Well I'm Out!!!!

  by ImFreeatlast in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it took a long time, but i can finally say i'm out and i took my family with me.. this is my first post but i have been reading here for a while.

  i was brought up a witness, in a family that was very 'strong' (or so everyone thought).

  i didnt have a relationship with my perents at all other than the 'family study'.

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  Congratulations and welcome!
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses care for victims of child abuse RELEASE

  by NotaNess in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm sure this article has come up on the forum.

  can any one give me information on the numbers quoted below, in respect to them being inaccurate, correct, or what the number is more like, when you add in jw's that aren't elders, where it seems like they fail to mention here.

  it almost seems they try and minimalize the the amount of abuse by only speaking of the elders here.

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  During the last 100 years, only eleven elders have been sued for child abuse in thirteen lawsuits filed in the United States. In seven of these lawsuits against the elders, accusations against the Watchtower Society itself were dismissed by the courts.

  It's astonishing that WT ADMITS that in 6 out of the 13 cases (46%) the allegations against the Society were PROVED.

  That's a devastating batting average!
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  CONFIRMED Book Study amalgamated with the TMS and SM

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  old timers on the board may remember that i was the first to mention the november 06 blood insert in the km.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121104/1.ashx.

  the same very, very reliable source has confirmed that the book study will be amalgamated with the tms and sm.. this same source recently had a long and private conversation with a gb member.

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  Say, could we start a campaign targeted at JWs:

  Tuesday night is 'Research WT on the Internet' night!

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  Is this "IT" ?

  by winnower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently i purchased a sony product at radio shack.

  i was about to throw out the packaging when i realized a raised strip on the instruction card insert.

  upon closer examination, i saw a very very tiny logo on this raised strip.

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  Did someone call ... ?

  "IT" Support
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  Why was the "Manking Search For God" publication never a study book?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any takers?.

  i'm guessing it's because people might get too curious when covering the material and wonder about different religions..

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  SBF,

  surely it would be okay so long as she wore a head covering while writing it.

  Good point.

  AaG,

  Maybe its one of those cases where the writer turns apostate

  Good theory, and tempting too, but sadly she was still at Bethel last time I visited (a few years ago now, admittedly!), but which was long after the book was published, and was still apparently 'loyal.'